{"id":9081,"date":"2023-08-21T05:30:00","date_gmt":"2023-08-21T10:30:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.basedonatruestorypodcast.com\/?p=9081"},"modified":"2023-07-31T19:04:40","modified_gmt":"2023-08-01T00:04:40","slug":"270-this-week-sweet-dreams-pompeii-saving-mr-banks","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.basedonatruestorypodcast.com\/270-this-week-sweet-dreams-pompeii-saving-mr-banks\/","title":{"rendered":"270: This Week: Sweet Dreams, Pompeii, Saving Mr. Banks"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"9081\" class=\"elementor elementor-9081\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-619397a elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"619397a\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-a2032ba\" data-id=\"a2032ba\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5d49511 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"5d49511\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>In this episode, we&#8217;ll learn about historical events that happened this week in history as they were depicted in <em>Sweet Dreams, Pompeii, <\/em>and<em> Saving Mr. Banks.<\/em><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d6ee3a9 elementor-widget elementor-widget-html\" data-id=\"d6ee3a9\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"html.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<iframe frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https:\/\/playlist.megaphone.fm\/?e=LEFE1707640581\" width=\"100%\"><\/iframe>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2af3c22 elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"2af3c22\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-008e93b elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"008e93b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Did you enjoy this episode? Help support the next one!<\/h2>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-56bd3b5 elementor-widget elementor-widget-html\" data-id=\"56bd3b5\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"html.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a class=\"bmc-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.buymeacoffee.com\/basedonatruestorypodcast\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.buymeacoffee.com\/buttons\/bmc-new-btn-logo.svg\" alt=\"Buy me a coffee\" \/><span style=\"margin-left: 15px; font-size: 19px !important;\">Buy me a coffee<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n\n<style>.bmc-button img{width: 35px !important;margin-bottom: 1px !important;box-shadow: none !important;border: none !important;vertical-align: middle !important;}.bmc-button{padding: 7px 10px 7px 10px !important;line-height: 35px !important;height:51px !important;min-width:217px !important;text-decoration: none !important;display:inline-flex !important;color:#ffffff !important;background-color:#FF813F !important;border-radius: 5px !important;border: 1px solid transparent !important;padding: 7px 10px 7px 10px !important;font-size: 20px !important;letter-spacing:0.6px !important;box-shadow: 0px 1px 2px rgba(190, 190, 190, 0.5) !important;-webkit-box-shadow: 0px 1px 2px 2px rgba(190, 190, 190, 0.5) !important;margin: 0 auto !important;font-family:'Arial', cursive !important;-webkit-box-sizing: border-box !important;box-sizing: border-box !important;-o-transition: 0.3s all linear !important;-webkit-transition: 0.3s all linear !important;-moz-transition: 0.3s all linear !important;-ms-transition: 0.3s all linear !important;transition: 0.3s all linear !important;}.bmc-button:hover, .bmc-button:active, .bmc-button:focus {-webkit-box-shadow: 0px 1px 2px 2px rgba(190, 190, 190, 0.5) !important;text-decoration: none !important;box-shadow: 0px 1px 2px 2px rgba(190, 190, 190, 0.5) !important;opacity: 0.85 !important;color:#ffffff !important;}<\/style>\n\n\n\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-19e4e74 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"19e4e74\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Disclaimer: Dan LeFebvre and\/or Based on a True Story may earn commissions from qualifying purchases through our links on this page.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-fc3d6f2 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"fc3d6f2\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Transcript<\/h2>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-74435ff elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"74435ff\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><em>Note: This transcript is automatically generated. There will be mistakes, so please don&#8217;t use them for quotes. It is provided for reference use to find things better in the audio.<\/em><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d66e2a4 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"d66e2a4\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h2>August 21, 1961. Nashville, Tennessee.<\/h2>\n<p>There\u2019s a band playing music. We\u2019re in a recording studio with four men and one woman. Almost immediately, there\u2019s an oddity as the woman is holding herself up with a crutch.<\/p>\n<p>No one is playing their instruments, but we can hear music playing\u2026it must be something playing over the speakers in the studio. She hobbles over to the pianist, who is busy jotting down some notes.<\/p>\n<p>She rests her crutch on the piano as the man keeps singing the song in the background, \u201cI\u2019m crazy for feeling so blue\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p>She waves to the guys in the sound booth to cut the song.<\/p>\n<p>She shakes her head.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI don\u2019t care how many times you play that, I can\u2019t sing this man\u2019s song.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>One of the men in the sound booth replies that no one wants her to\u2014take it away from him. The pianist closest to her reaffirms this. To hell with the demo, steal it!<\/p>\n<p>Cigarette in hand, she shakes her head again. \u201cHow am I supposed to do this song?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The man in the studio replies, \u201cJust like you always do, Patsy\u2014your way!\u201d<\/p>\n<p>This is how the 1985 movie <em>Sweet Dreams <\/em>depicts an event that happened this week in history when Patsy Cline recorded her now-famous song \u201cCrazy\u201d in the studio.<\/p>\n<p>That man on the demo? Another singer who was famous in his own right: Willie Nelson.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, at the time, Nelson wasn\u2019t famous. Quite the opposite. According to Nelson\u2019s autobiography, part of the idea that inspired him to write the song \u201cCrazy\u201d had to do with how he felt during a time of his life when he was trying to support his family with unstable work.<\/p>\n<p>In the movie, while Jessica Lange\u2019s version of Patsy Cline is recording the song we hear her talking to one of the men in the control room named Bradley.<\/p>\n<p>He\u2019s played by Jerry Haynes in the movie, and there is a level of historical accuracy there because Owen Bradley really was Patsy Cline\u2019s producer. In fact, it was Bradley who suggested the song for Patsy Cline after he heard it from one of Willie Nelson\u2019s friends and colleagues, another song writer named Hank Cochran.<\/p>\n<p>He&#8217;s not in the movie at all, but then again neither is Willie Nelson.<\/p>\n<p>Patsy Cline recorded her version of \u201cCrazy\u201d starting on August 24<sup>th<\/sup>, 1961, and the recording process took about a month: It wrapped up on September 15<sup>th<\/sup>. Then, it was released in October of the same year and it was an immediate hit.<\/p>\n<p>Since Patsy Cline had just released another hit single earlier in the year called \u201cI Fall Into Pieces,\u201d after \u201cCrazy\u201d was released to such success, <em>Billboard <\/em>named Patsy Cline their Favorite Female Country Artist of 1961.<\/p>\n<p>If you want to watch the recording process as it\u2019s portrayed in the movie, check out the 1985 biopic about Patsy Cline\u2019s life called <em>Sweet Dreams. <\/em>The recording of \u201cCrazy\u201d starts at about an hour and 21 minutes into the film.<\/p>\n<p>And if you want to dig into Patsy\u2019s life and tragic death just two years after the recording of \u201cCrazy\u201d, we covered that movie back in episode #95 at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.basedonatruestorypodcast.com\/95-sweet-dreams\/\">basedonatruestorypodcast.com\/95<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<h2>August 24, 79. Italy.<\/h2>\n<p>Two men are sword fighting in an arena. While this part of the movie doesn\u2019t tell us who they are, we can tell from the actors that the two men are played by Sasha Roiz\u2019s character, Proculus, and Kit Harington\u2019s character, Milo.<\/p>\n<p>The sword fighting intensifies and every so often we can hear the crowd cheering as one of the two men gets a hit in on the other.<\/p>\n<p>The camera cuts to Kiefer Sutherland\u2019s character, Corvus, as he\u2019s watching\u2026all of a sudden, the building starts to rumble. Corvus looks around, trying to figure out what\u2019s going on.<\/p>\n<p>In the arena, Proculus knocks Milo down to the ground before he realizes everything is shaking. The cheers of the crowd change into screams as people start looking around at each other. We can hear the sound of cracking, although there doesn\u2019t seem to be any visual damage yet.<\/p>\n<p>Oh wait, I spoke too soon.<\/p>\n<p>The camera pans up from the ground level of the arena and we can see pieces of the whole building start to collapse into piles of dust and debris. People are fleeing for the exits. The camera keeps panning up and in the distance behind the arena is a massive mountain. At the top of the mountain, there\u2019s a burst as scores of smoke and ash spew into the sky.<\/p>\n<p>This is how the 2014 movie <em>Pompeii <\/em>depicts an event that happened this week in history when the volcano Mount Vesuvius erupted on August 24<sup>th<\/sup> in the year 79 AD.<\/p>\n<p>Well, not really.<\/p>\n<p>The characters and storyline in the movie are fictional, so the movie overall isn\u2019t supposed to be telling an entirely true story\u2014it&#8217;s more about transporting us to Pompeii to see how things <em>might <\/em>have happened for people who were there.<\/p>\n<p>Because the truth is that we don\u2019t know exactly what it was like. After all, it was almost 2,000 years ago.<\/p>\n<p>1,944 years, as of this recording in 2023.<\/p>\n<p>With that said, although the movie\u2019s timeline focuses on the eruption in 79 AD, that\u2019s not really where the true story begins.<\/p>\n<p>There was a massive earthquake about 16 years earlier, in 63 AD, that caused a lot of damage to many of the buildings near Vesuvius. Today, most scientists and historians believe the earthquake was a bit of a warning sign. But, it\u2019s not likely the local residents knew it to be a warning sign of something worse to come, and Romans loved the beautiful views along the shores of the Bay of Naples that Pompeii provided.<\/p>\n<p>By the time the year 79 AD rolled around, there was around 20,000 people who lived in Pompeii. And while it doesn\u2019t get as much attention, there was another town nearby called Herculaneum.<\/p>\n<p>As a fun little fact, Herculaneum was actually rediscovered before Pompeii\u2014in 1709, while Pompeii was discovered decades later in 1748.<\/p>\n<p>Herculaneum was a smaller town with only about 5,000 residents at the time of the eruption, but most believe it was a vacation town for Roman elites and, by extension, a wealthier town than Pompeii.<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps that\u2019s why we\u2019ve heard of Pompeii more, because there were a lot less human remains found in Herculaneum than Pompeii. Is that simply because there were fewer people in Herculaneum? Maybe.<\/p>\n<p>Or maybe it\u2019s because, even today, most of Herculaneum has yet to be uncovered\u2014you see, part of the city lies underneath the modern-day city of Ercolano.<\/p>\n<p>Or maybe it\u2019s because Herculaneum consisted of more Roman elites than Pompeii, so they were able to flee while leaving less fortunate people behind.<\/p>\n<p>Those are all speculations that people have had over the centuries but, of course, they\u2019re purely speculation.<\/p>\n<p>What\u2019s not speculation is that Vesuvius\u2019 eruption killed about 16,000 people in the region, with 2,000 of them being in Pompeii. And I\u2019m sure you\u2019ve seen photos of Pompeii\u2014the manner in which many people who were killed by the ash tells a unique story in history, even if the destruction of an erupting volcano is not.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7fbd003 elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"7fbd003\" data-element_type=\"widget\" id=\"pompeii\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figure class=\"wp-caption\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:Pompeii_Garden_of_the_Fugitives_02.jpg\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/commons\/b\/bc\/Pompeii_Garden_of_the_Fugitives_02.jpg\" title=\"\" alt=\"Pompeii\" loading=\"lazy\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figcaption class=\"widget-image-caption wp-caption-text\">The Garden of the Fugitives: plaster casts of victims still in situ; many casts are in the Archaeological Museum of Naples.<br>Lancevortex, CC BY-SA 3.0 , via Wikimedia Commons<\/figcaption>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/figure>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4b7dfd4 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"4b7dfd4\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Men, women, and children were preserved the way they were that day\u2014clutching valuables or arms wrapped around their loved ones.<\/p><p>The way the ash preserved the city is almost as if it was frozen in time. Approximately 2,000 of Pompeii\u2019s residents never left, only to be rediscovered in 1748.<\/p><p>But, since we&#8217;re talking about the movie, there is one vitally important thing the filmmakers got wrong that you should know whenever you watch it.<\/p><p>And, to be fair, it\u2019s not their fault they got it wrong.<\/p><p>You see, for almost that entire time, historians believed the date of the eruption took place this week in history. That\u2019s because one of the people who survived was Pliny the Younger. He was only 17 at the time of the eruption, and although the uncle he lived with, Pliny the Elder, was one of the people killed at Pompeii, Pliny the Younger would go on to be an author whose writings have given us a lot of knowledge about what Roman life was like back then.<\/p><p>So, when Pliny gave us the date of the eruption as being August 24<sup>th<\/sup> and 25<sup>th<\/sup>. Since there was no archaeological finds to dispute that, there was no reason to question it.<\/p><p>That was true for centuries throughout history even up through the time of the movie because it wasn\u2019t until 2018 that an archaeological find at Pompeii changed all of that.<\/p><p>It was a date.<\/p><p>Someone found the date of October 17<sup>th<\/sup> inscribed at Pompeii.<\/p><p>Even more archaeological evidence found in 2018 included some fruits still on branches from autumn-bearing fruits. Of course, the movie was released in 2014, so the filmmakers were still operating under the belief that the eruption of Mount Vesuvius took place this week in history.<\/p><p>So, that\u2019s why I thought this would still be a great movie to cover this week because if nothing else, the 2014 movie <em>Pompeii <\/em>is just another great example of how we\u2019re always learning new things about history every day.<\/p><p>Or, to quote Italy\u2019s culture minister, Alberto Bonisoli: \u201cToday, with much humility, perhaps we will rewrite the history books because we date the eruption to the second half of October.\u201d<\/p><p>If you want to watch the beginning of the eruption sequence, it starts about an hour and six minutes into the movie.<\/p><p>\u00a0<\/p><h2>August 27, 1964. Los Angeles, California.<\/h2><p>As the camera pans down from the night sky, we can see we\u2019re at the famous Chinese Theatre in Los Angeles. There\u2019s a massive crowd of people gathered outside, red carpets, fancy cars, and a lot of press photographers snapping photos.<\/p><p>There\u2019s also a small band playing a song, and on either side of the theater the marquee boldly states the movie that\u2019s premiering tonight: Mary Poppins, starring Julie Andrews and Dick Van Dyke.<\/p><p>The camera cuts down to ground level now, and we can see everyone is dressed in their finest tuxedos and dresses. Walking among the nicely dressed people in attendance is a costumed version of Mickey Mouse\u2019s beloved dog, Pluto. We can also see Goofy, too. They&#8217;re both among the crowd that\u2019s now watching as a car pulls up to the red carpet.<\/p><p>A man in a red suit opens up the back door. Stepping out is a woman in a yellow dress. She\u2019s all smiles as she steps out, then looks back at the car just as Tom Hanks\u2019 character, Walt Disney, steps out of the car to join her on the red carpet.<\/p><p>He waves to the crowd.<\/p><p>There are cuts among the crowd. More memorable Disney characters. There\u2019s Victoria Summer\u2019s version of Julie Andrews in the crowd, greeting the guests.<\/p><p>Then, another car pulls up to the red carpet. Inside is Emma Thompson\u2019s character, P.L. Travers. Her driver, Paul Giamatti\u2019s character, Ralph, rushes around the car to get the door for her. She steps out onto the red carpet, and looks up at the huge theater in front of her.<\/p><p>Ralph looks at her and says, \u201cThis is your night. None of this would be possible without you.\u201d<\/p><p>This is how the 2013 movie <em>Saving Mr. Banks <\/em>depicts an event that happened this week in history when the Disney classic movie <em>Mary Poppins <\/em>premiered at the Chinese Theatre in Los Angeles on August 27<sup>th<\/sup>, 1964.<\/p><p>Pamela Lyndon Travers, who went by the pen name P.L. Travers and is played by Emma Thompson in the movie, really was the woman who wrote the <em>Mary Poppins <\/em>books. And I say books because there were eight books in the series. Her first one was published in 1934, and it was an immediate hit.<\/p><p>As the story goes, it was Walt Disney\u2019s kids who loved the book so much that they convinced their dad to make a movie out of it. He tried to do that in 1938, but Travers refused his offer because she didn\u2019t think it\u2019d be a good movie. She simply didn\u2019t believe a film version of Mary Poppins would do her creation justice.<\/p><p>It took Walt Disney over 20 years to finally convince Travers to let him turn her book into a movie. When she finally gave him permission to do so in 1961, she still required final approvals on the script. As you can imagine, she was very picky and wanted a lot of changes&#8230;but, according to the contract, while Travers had script approval rights, Disney had the final cut approval, so he was able to overrule her on things like the songs for the movie.<\/p><p>While we don\u2019t see this happening in the movie segment we heard about today, the idea of P.L. Travers arriving later than Disney has some basis in truth because it really is true that Travers wasn\u2019t given an invitation to the premiere of her own film. Knowing how picky she was about everything, it wouldn\u2019t surprise me if that was on purpose by Disney to try to not spoil the evening&#8230;but, of course, that\u2019s my speculation.<\/p><p>She did manage to get one anyway, so she showed up to the premiere and after the movie, she walked up to Walt Disney and told him that the animated sequence in the film had to be cut out. I\u2019m paraphrasing, of course, but basically Walt Disney simply told her it was too late for that.<\/p><p>And the rest, as they say, is history. Disney\u2019s film version of <em>Mary Poppins <\/em>was a massive success and as the film debut of Julie Andrews helped launch her into stardom as well.<\/p><p>If you want to watch the scene that happened this week in history, check out the 2013 movie called <em>Saving Mr. Banks<\/em>. 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